Comments on: Classic Legal L.A. Obstruction Behavior http://www.lacantdrive.com/2009/06/25/classic-legal-l-a-obstruction-behavior/ Los Angeles drivers can't drive. Plain and simple. Basic traffic laws and driving etiquette clearly do not apply in a town where the people seem to operate in their own little bubble, completely unaware or dismissive of others on the road. Call it what you will: self-entitlement, negligence, malaise, ignorance. My goal? To have mandatory driving tests randomly issued where drivers are eligible for selection after 6 years. Consider this jury duty for the road. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:29:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: I-95, U-405 http://www.lacantdrive.com/2009/06/25/classic-legal-l-a-obstruction-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3228 I-95, U-405 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:31:21 +0000 http://www.lacantdrive.com/?p=1591#comment-3228 Mike, that's pretty funny. I've actually written in quite a few posts about drivers who've actually inched forward to make room for other drivers wishing to make right turns. The only time I've mentioned the limit line is when I've personally witnessed a driver speeding, trying to beat a light or something to that effect, and then screeching to a halt at the very last second when they change their mind. But, again, since I didn't witness this incident, I only post what people send me and then comment about how I feel about similar situations. In short, I personally don't think it's a big deal to move to the left of the rightmost through lane. I don't even think about it...it's not draining any brain power nor does it keep me up at night if I happen to forget to do it. It's just a habit that I think is quite considerate, harmless, and eases traffic flow. Others might think I'm making too big of a stretch by associating this with oblivious behavior, which (like I said earlier) COULD lead to inadvertent dangerous behavior. If you think I am wrong on that front, then you're completely entitled. I still welcome anyone to vent about whatever pet peeve bothers than most on this site. Mike, that’s pretty funny. I’ve actually written in quite a few posts about drivers who’ve actually inched forward to make room for other drivers wishing to make right turns. The only time I’ve mentioned the limit line is when I’ve personally witnessed a driver speeding, trying to beat a light or something to that effect, and then screeching to a halt at the very last second when they change their mind. But, again, since I didn’t witness this incident, I only post what people send me and then comment about how I feel about similar situations.

In short, I personally don’t think it’s a big deal to move to the left of the rightmost through lane. I don’t even think about it…it’s not draining any brain power nor does it keep me up at night if I happen to forget to do it. It’s just a habit that I think is quite considerate, harmless, and eases traffic flow. Others might think I’m making too big of a stretch by associating this with oblivious behavior, which (like I said earlier) COULD lead to inadvertent dangerous behavior. If you think I am wrong on that front, then you’re completely entitled. I still welcome anyone to vent about whatever pet peeve bothers than most on this site.

]]> By: Mike http://www.lacantdrive.com/2009/06/25/classic-legal-l-a-obstruction-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3227 Mike Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:04:41 +0000 http://www.lacantdrive.com/?p=1591#comment-3227 I've got to agree with Russell here, especially when you consider that the person is at the restraining line. If they had pulled forward further to straighten out so the car could turn right, you would have posted "look at this jackass over the restraining line." I’ve got to agree with Russell here, especially when you consider that the person is at the restraining line. If they had pulled forward further to straighten out so the car could turn right, you would have posted “look at this jackass over the restraining line.”

]]> By: I-95, U-405 http://www.lacantdrive.com/2009/06/25/classic-legal-l-a-obstruction-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3225 I-95, U-405 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:09:48 +0000 http://www.lacantdrive.com/?p=1591#comment-3225 Hey Russell, thanks for the feedback. In short, I agree with the idea that this isn't really reckless...just more inconsiderate (hence the lower meter ratings). It was a submission, and I try to post any submission I get. Readers want to vent, too, you know? I don't disagree with you...the person is completely in their right to take up the breadth of the entire right lane if it's unmarked. And yes, like you I also wait for the light rather than honk or wave angrily at the other driver. But I'm sure you can see how one could find it frustrating in this situation when a person darts out of a driveway in front of other drivers (who may or may not have been signaling for a right turn) and then stops diagonally to prevent any cars from making a legal right on red, which is customary and expected. Making rights on reds is something we all pretty much know about, so the more attentive and considerate drivers on the road do tend to veer to the left side in the rightmost lane if there's room for a car to squeeze by and make a turn. Again, it isn't illegal, nor is it reckless. But it certainly does highlight the typical obliviousness the average poor L.A. driver has with his/her other commuters. Such lack of awareness in other situations can actually turn into inadvertent reckless behavior. Hey Russell, thanks for the feedback. In short, I agree with the idea that this isn’t really reckless…just more inconsiderate (hence the lower meter ratings). It was a submission, and I try to post any submission I get. Readers want to vent, too, you know? I don’t disagree with you…the person is completely in their right to take up the breadth of the entire right lane if it’s unmarked. And yes, like you I also wait for the light rather than honk or wave angrily at the other driver. But I’m sure you can see how one could find it frustrating in this situation when a person darts out of a driveway in front of other drivers (who may or may not have been signaling for a right turn) and then stops diagonally to prevent any cars from making a legal right on red, which is customary and expected. Making rights on reds is something we all pretty much know about, so the more attentive and considerate drivers on the road do tend to veer to the left side in the rightmost lane if there’s room for a car to squeeze by and make a turn. Again, it isn’t illegal, nor is it reckless. But it certainly does highlight the typical obliviousness the average poor L.A. driver has with his/her other commuters. Such lack of awareness in other situations can actually turn into inadvertent reckless behavior.

]]> By: Russell Miller http://www.lacantdrive.com/2009/06/25/classic-legal-l-a-obstruction-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3224 Russell Miller Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:02:46 +0000 http://www.lacantdrive.com/?p=1591#comment-3224 Normally I agree with your posts, but not this one. You yourself admitted it's perfectly legal, and moreso, if a right lane is not marked as two lanes, then while you can go squeezing by if there's room, if there's not, the person in front of you is perfectly justified in taking up the whole lane if they so choose. I've had that happen on Olympic and Bundy occasionally - and I just wait for the light. There are so many other nastier things to get pissed off about in this metro area... how about the idiots that turn right in front of you and then proceed to go 15 mph below the speed limit? Or the ones who are going to get into the exit lane on the freeway while you're trying to merge off of it but just HAVE to do it in *front* of you? Sorry dude. I like this site, but I'd suggest that you stick to the stuff that is *truly* reckless... :) Normally I agree with your posts, but not this one. You yourself admitted it’s perfectly legal, and moreso, if a right lane is not marked as two lanes, then while you can go squeezing by if there’s room, if there’s not, the person in front of you is perfectly justified in taking up the whole lane if they so choose. I’ve had that happen on Olympic and Bundy occasionally – and I just wait for the light.

There are so many other nastier things to get pissed off about in this metro area… how about the idiots that turn right in front of you and then proceed to go 15 mph below the speed limit? Or the ones who are going to get into the exit lane on the freeway while you’re trying to merge off of it but just HAVE to do it in *front* of you?

Sorry dude. I like this site, but I’d suggest that you stick to the stuff that is *truly* reckless… :)

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